The special guest for this live broadcast on February 11, 2014 of Pateo Radio lives in Canada and uses the name Kate of Gaia.
Kate hosted at that time an open forum style radio show called Outside the Box on Critical Mass Radio.
In this volume of the Pateo Radio talk show, Kate and host Johan Oldenkamp also talked outside this limiting box. Within this box, nearly fifty years ago, a boy named Wilfred Keith Thompson was born. Out of this box came Katherine Renee also known as Katie or Kate.
In this show, Kate refers to a video of a judge bowing to her/him.